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Jeroen234



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PostSubject: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:09 am

i will carther as much non clasifid info as i can in the next few days here
to give every one here who is not in the stafford army a idea about how army's work
how they defend and how the fc and weapens you have come into play
and what happens if you as militia or as soldiers defend to power in a town and a ig army try's to enter the town with out permision of the mayor

since a lot of you are not in a army is that needed i think to get a full grip about what your now doing in the wargame
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:32 am

okey here we go

first thing to know is that in a town when it is under army attack every one in it marshalls,militia and soldiers and citzens defending it
will be acting like a army when you travel you have seen them already
for stafford the town army will be the defenders of stafford
unlike a ig army created by level 3's will this army never leave town

a group that meets a ig army somewhere on a road is also then a army

also now it is inportend what fc you have
its all put to gether till one number
for the attacking army is that also been done
there are also bonusen a army inside a town will get a 100% FC bonus for defending it
if they are outside the town defending it or on a node defending it they get a 50% FC bonus

if you attack you dont get a bonus
army's can also get a special status from the county they then become a county army and get a bonus from the prestige of the city
0: -20%
1: No modifier
2: +20%
3: +40%
4: +70%
5: +100%

Stafford county has no prestige so any army that the captain in his office would give the county army status would lose 20% of his FC


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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:55 am

defending town against a ig army

lets say we are defending stafford castle with these people
and eqeupment and FC

Stafford Castle DTP
Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield
Anonymoose FC 5
Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule)
Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield
Morg FC 1 sword + shield
Crowd of Peasant Levies

lets turn it into a town army now since they are under attack of a ig army

the defenders of Stafford
Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC
Anonymoose FC 5
Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule)
Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC
Morg FC 1 sword + shield 4FC
Crowd of Peasant Levies 4 x 1fc

the total FC of the defenders of Stafford is now 4Fc+5FC+3FC+5FC+4FC +4x1FC=25FC
they are in town defening it so they get a 100% bonus making it 50FC

lets say the WoS army is 35 FC

take a look at this picture from Levan



its 35:50 or 3,5:5 so that is close to 2:3

so what does that mean

again from levan
Quote :

Several results are possible:

Ax% (« Attacking x% » - for example: A50%): The attacker gives a number of blows (see further) equal to the number of soldiers (and not the number of factors of attack,SIC)in the attacking army multiplied by x%, rounded upwards. The defender inflicts simultaneously a number of blows equal to 25% (rounded upwards) of this number, but with a maximum of x% of his own number of soldiers.

Dx% (« Defender x% »): Same, but one replaces attacker with defender

Echx% (« Exchange x% »): The weaker army inflicts on the other a number of blows equal to x% of its total number soldiers. At the same time, the other army inflicts exactly the same number of blows.

MA (« Massacre, for the benefit of the attack »): Each soldier of the attacker carries a blow to a soldier of the defender. There is no response. The defender inflicts only one number of blows equal to 10% (rounded down) of this number, reaching a maximum of 30% of his own number of soldiers.

MD: Same principle but for the defender


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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:13 am

lets say that Theredchef rolled a 1 with the dice
then we have d50% as a result

lets say the WoS army has 10 soldiers

D50% (« Defending x% » - for example: D50%): The defender gives a number of blows (see further) equal to the number of soldiers (and not the number of factors of attack,SIC)in the defending army multiplied by 50%, rounded upwards. The attacker inflicts simultaneously a number of blows equal to 25% (rounded upwards) of this number, but with a maximum of 50% of his own number of soldiers.

we have 9 people in the army 50% rounded upwards makes it that we gain 5 more blows
giving us a total 14 blows we can give the attacking army

the attackers have 10 people so they can give 25% of our 14 blows rounded upward is 4 blows
they can max use 50% of his troops that is 5 people so they can use 4 soldiers to give the blows

i hope your still reading since the fight between the 2 army's is now ready to start
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:35 am

can some one give me 18 numbers 14 for the defenders and 4 for the attackers
between 1 and 6
for the battle
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:56 am

Jeroen234 wrote:
can some one give me 18 numbers 14 for the defenders and 4 for the attackers
between 1 and 6
for the battle

OK - here goes

1 6 1 4 4 1 3 4 3 1 3 1 3 3

4 5 3 4
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:59 am

okey one more thing we need to do a real battle is also to have the wos having shields staffs swords
a bit of a mix some one willing to do that ? its needed for all 10 wos

in the 18 battles will that mean if some one will life or die
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:18 am

1 Sword
2 Shield
3 Sword Shield
4
5 Sword shield
6 Sword
7 Staff shield
8
9 Sword
10 Sword

Is that OK?
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:31 am

yeah that is okey

okey lets start the fight
but first again some info from levan about how it is done
Quote :

A die of six faces is then rolled and the result applied using this table:

0: R 0%
1: Bl0 Bl0 10%
2: Bl1 Bl1 20%
3: Bl5 Bl5 40%
4: Bl10 Bl10 60%
5: Mr. M 80%
6 or +: Mr. M 100%

The first column (R, Bl0, Bl1, etc.) give the final state of the character
M: Death - Unavailable for combat during 45 days
BL10: Severely wounded - unavailable during 10 days
Bl5: Serious wound - out for 5 days
Bl1: Non-Serious wound - out for 1 day
Bl0: A scratch - available the next day, player remains in the army
R: Nothing

The second column gives the likelihood of each weapon breaking.
Moreover,a staff breaks in every use, at the end of battle, if it was used offensively (even if the owner never received a blow).

Each fight whether by attacker or defender is determined by rolling a dice of six sides.
The result is modified as follows:
Attacker has no weapon: -3
Attacker has a stick: -2
Atacker has a 'morning star' (spiked mace - not yet coded): +1
Defender has shield: -1
Attacker has more than 100 SP: +1
The Defender has already received n blows which have not made him fall: +n

you see here a 0 but there is no 0 on a dice ???
this is the work of shields they lower the result of the dice by one
if a 5 was rolled will a shield lower it to 4 bringing you from dead to Severely wounded
saving you 35 days


okey here we go now
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:51 am

first the defenders

Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC vs wos 1 +Sword
deekay rolled a 1 for this fight
Quote :

Bl0: A scratch - available the next day, wos 1 remains in the army

Anonymoose FC 5 vs wos 2 shield
deekay rolled a 6 for this fight
Quote :

shield found -1
no weapon -3
left over 2
Bl1: Non-Serious wound - wos 2 out for 1 day

Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule) vs wos 3 sword shield
deekay rolled a 1 for this fight
Quote :

shield found -1
no weapon -3
left 0
R: Nothing happend

Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC vs wos 4
deekay rolled a 4 for this fight
Quote :

BL10: Severely wounded - wos 4 unavailable during 10 days
Morg FC 1 sword + shield 4FC vs wos 5 shield sword
deekay rolled a 4 for this fight
Quote :

shield found -1
left 3
Bl5: Serious wound - wos 5 out for 5 days
peasant 1 vs wos 6 sword
deekay rolled a 1 for this fight
Quote :

no weapon -3
left 0
R: Nothing happend

peasant 2 vs wos 7 staff shield
deekay rolled a 3 for this fight
Quote :

shield found -1
no weapon -3
left 0
R: Nothing happend

peasant 3 vs wos 8
deekay rolled a 4 for this fight
Quote :

no weapon -3
left 1
Bl0: A scratch - available the next day, wos 8 remains in the army
peasant 4 vs wos 9 sword
deekay rolled a 3 for this fight
Quote :

no weapon -3
left 0
R: Nothing happend

Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC vs wos 10 sword
deekay rolled a 1 for this fight
Quote :

Bl0: A scratch - available the next day, wos 10 remains in the army

Anonymoose FC 5 vs wos 1 sword
deekay rolled a 3 for this fight
Quote :

no weapon -3
left 0
R: Nothing happend

Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule) vs wos 2 shield
deekay rolled a 1 for this fight
Quote :

shield found -1
left 0
R: Nothing happend

Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC vs wos 3 sword shield
deekay rolled a 3 for this fight
Quote :

shield found -1
left 2
Bl1: Non-Serious wound - wos 3 out for 1 day

Morg FC 1 sword + shield 4FC vs wos 4
deekay rolled a 3 for this fight
Quote :

Bl5: Serious wound - wos 4 out for 5 days
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:45 am

now for the attackers

Wos 1 +Sword vs Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC
deekay rolled a 4 for this fight
Quote :

shield found -1
left 3
Bl5: Serious wound - Nickc97 out for 5 days

wos 2 shield vs Anonymoose FC 5
deekay rolled a 5 for this fight
Quote :

no weapon -3
left 2
Bl1: Non-Serious wound - Anonymoose out for 1 day

wos 3 shield sword vs Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule)
deekay rolled a 3 for this fight
Quote :

Bl5: Serious wound - Jeroen234 out for 5 days

wos 4 vs Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC
deekay rolled a 4 for this fight
Quote :

no weapon -3
shield found -1
left 0
R: Nothing happend
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:26 am

great info, thanks
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:16 pm

i know i was missing something never could figure out how they got on the number of soldiers that where fighting
now i know
so FC is only been used at the start to see who has the uper hand
but the weapens are used at the start for extra Fc and later to raise the amound of damige done
or lower it with a shield
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:21 pm

Moved this to the general forum. Great work on the guide!
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:32 pm

well i was not yet done with it

but i gues it will do
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:34 pm

Feel free to keep working on it.
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:43 pm

tell me if i get this right
lets use the same people and cards again and also the same wos again
only this time is it a ig army outside the townwalls that is under wos attack

stafford 1st defense army
Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC
Anonymoose FC 5
Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule)
Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC
Morg FC 1 sword + shield 4FC
Crowd of Peasant Levies 4 x 1fc

the total FC of stafford 1st defense army is 4Fc+5FC+3FC+5FC+4FC +4x1FC=25FC
they are in outside town defening it so they get a 50% bonus making it 37FC or 38FC

the WoS army is 35 FC

so thats 35:38
so thats in the table 1:1 ?
with the one as dice that Jeroen trowed will that give D20
so the army outside stafford gets 9 +20% is 10,8 rounded up 11 blows
the wos get 20% of that number is 2,16 rounded up 3 blows


is this correct ?

how about when 1 army is traveling and has let say me on there hit list
and im also traveling in a group

one going from stafford to birmingham and one going from birmingham to stafford
how is it then been done ?
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:01 pm

you have that correct

about your group put on your best dress im turning you into a Lady so that you can lead a group
give me it here with people cards sword shields staff etc and i show you what will happen if you travel and you meet a traveling army with you on there hitlist

as a Lady you can have 8 people in a group that is including you
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:08 pm

okey

armed retenue of Debie2008
Debie2008 default rule 2fc sword shield
Anonymoose FC 5 sword shield
patrol Major with 6x sword and shield

how is that ?
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PostSubject: Re: crash course on army war fare   Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:16 pm

armed retenue of Debie2008
Debie2008 default rule 2fc sword shield 5FC
Anonymoose FC 5 sword shield 8 FC
patrol Major with 6x sword and shield 6x 3fc +6x3fc from sword = 36fc

total fc of armed retenue of Debie2008 = 49 FC
total fc of WoS army = 35FC

there are no bonusen for defending since both are traveling

your on the hitlist of the ig army so you are defender and the army attacker
35:49

this is 2:3 again i think

lets trow now a 6
then we get ech50%
Echx% (« Exchange x% »): The weaker army inflicts on the other a number of blows equal to x% of its total number soldiers. At the same time, the other army inflicts exactly the same number of blows.

WoS are the weakst even when having 2 more people then you
50% of 10 wos is 5 people

so your group and the wos army will both give 5 blows
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