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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:09 am | |
| i will carther as much non clasifid info as i can in the next few days here to give every one here who is not in the stafford army a idea about how army's work how they defend and how the fc and weapens you have come into play and what happens if you as militia or as soldiers defend to power in a town and a ig army try's to enter the town with out permision of the mayor
since a lot of you are not in a army is that needed i think to get a full grip about what your now doing in the wargame | |
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:32 am | |
| okey here we go
first thing to know is that in a town when it is under army attack every one in it marshalls,militia and soldiers and citzens defending it will be acting like a army when you travel you have seen them already for stafford the town army will be the defenders of stafford unlike a ig army created by level 3's will this army never leave town
a group that meets a ig army somewhere on a road is also then a army
also now it is inportend what fc you have its all put to gether till one number for the attacking army is that also been done there are also bonusen a army inside a town will get a 100% FC bonus for defending it if they are outside the town defending it or on a node defending it they get a 50% FC bonus
if you attack you dont get a bonus army's can also get a special status from the county they then become a county army and get a bonus from the prestige of the city 0: -20% 1: No modifier 2: +20% 3: +40% 4: +70% 5: +100%
Stafford county has no prestige so any army that the captain in his office would give the county army status would lose 20% of his FC
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:55 am | |
| defending town against a ig army lets say we are defending stafford castle with these people and eqeupment and FC Stafford Castle DTP Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield Anonymoose FC 5 Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule) Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield Morg FC 1 sword + shield Crowd of Peasant Levies lets turn it into a town army now since they are under attack of a ig army the defenders of Stafford Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC Anonymoose FC 5 Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule) Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC Morg FC 1 sword + shield 4FC Crowd of Peasant Levies 4 x 1fc the total FC of the defenders of Stafford is now 4Fc+5FC+3FC+5FC+4FC +4x1FC=25FC they are in town defening it so they get a 100% bonus making it 50FC lets say the WoS army is 35 FC take a look at this picture from Levan its 35:50 or 3,5:5 so that is close to 2:3 so what does that mean again from levan - Quote :
Several results are possible:
Ax% (« Attacking x% » - for example: A50%): The attacker gives a number of blows (see further) equal to the number of soldiers (and not the number of factors of attack,SIC)in the attacking army multiplied by x%, rounded upwards. The defender inflicts simultaneously a number of blows equal to 25% (rounded upwards) of this number, but with a maximum of x% of his own number of soldiers.
Dx% (« Defender x% »): Same, but one replaces attacker with defender
Echx% (« Exchange x% »): The weaker army inflicts on the other a number of blows equal to x% of its total number soldiers. At the same time, the other army inflicts exactly the same number of blows.
MA (« Massacre, for the benefit of the attack »): Each soldier of the attacker carries a blow to a soldier of the defender. There is no response. The defender inflicts only one number of blows equal to 10% (rounded down) of this number, reaching a maximum of 30% of his own number of soldiers.
MD: Same principle but for the defender
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:13 am | |
| lets say that Theredchef rolled a 1 with the dice then we have d50% as a result
lets say the WoS army has 10 soldiers
D50% (« Defending x% » - for example: D50%): The defender gives a number of blows (see further) equal to the number of soldiers (and not the number of factors of attack,SIC)in the defending army multiplied by 50%, rounded upwards. The attacker inflicts simultaneously a number of blows equal to 25% (rounded upwards) of this number, but with a maximum of 50% of his own number of soldiers.
we have 9 people in the army 50% rounded upwards makes it that we gain 5 more blows giving us a total 14 blows we can give the attacking army
the attackers have 10 people so they can give 25% of our 14 blows rounded upward is 4 blows they can max use 50% of his troops that is 5 people so they can use 4 soldiers to give the blows
i hope your still reading since the fight between the 2 army's is now ready to start | |
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:35 am | |
| can some one give me 18 numbers 14 for the defenders and 4 for the attackers between 1 and 6 for the battle | |
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deekay
Posts : 43 Join date : 2009-09-07 Age : 69 Location : England
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:56 am | |
| - Jeroen234 wrote:
- can some one give me 18 numbers 14 for the defenders and 4 for the attackers
between 1 and 6 for the battle OK - here goes 1 6 1 4 4 1 3 4 3 1 3 1 3 3 4 5 3 4 | |
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:59 am | |
| okey one more thing we need to do a real battle is also to have the wos having shields staffs swords a bit of a mix some one willing to do that ? its needed for all 10 wos
in the 18 battles will that mean if some one will life or die | |
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deekay
Posts : 43 Join date : 2009-09-07 Age : 69 Location : England
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:18 am | |
| 1 Sword 2 Shield 3 Sword Shield 4 5 Sword shield 6 Sword 7 Staff shield 8 9 Sword 10 Sword
Is that OK? | |
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:31 am | |
| yeah that is okey okey lets start the fight but first again some info from levan about how it is done - Quote :
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A die of six faces is then rolled and the result applied using this table:
0: R 0% 1: Bl0 Bl0 10% 2: Bl1 Bl1 20% 3: Bl5 Bl5 40% 4: Bl10 Bl10 60% 5: Mr. M 80% 6 or +: Mr. M 100%
The first column (R, Bl0, Bl1, etc.) give the final state of the character M: Death - Unavailable for combat during 45 days BL10: Severely wounded - unavailable during 10 days Bl5: Serious wound - out for 5 days Bl1: Non-Serious wound - out for 1 day Bl0: A scratch - available the next day, player remains in the army R: Nothing
The second column gives the likelihood of each weapon breaking. Moreover,a staff breaks in every use, at the end of battle, if it was used offensively (even if the owner never received a blow).
Each fight whether by attacker or defender is determined by rolling a dice of six sides. The result is modified as follows: Attacker has no weapon: -3 Attacker has a stick: -2 Atacker has a 'morning star' (spiked mace - not yet coded): +1 Defender has shield: -1 Attacker has more than 100 SP: +1 The Defender has already received n blows which have not made him fall: +n
you see here a 0 but there is no 0 on a dice ??? this is the work of shields they lower the result of the dice by one if a 5 was rolled will a shield lower it to 4 bringing you from dead to Severely wounded saving you 35 days okey here we go now | |
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:51 am | |
| first the defenders Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC vs wos 1 +Sword deekay rolled a 1 for this fight - Quote :
Bl0: A scratch - available the next day, wos 1 remains in the army
Anonymoose FC 5 vs wos 2 shield deekay rolled a 6 for this fight - Quote :
shield found -1 no weapon -3 left over 2 Bl1: Non-Serious wound - wos 2 out for 1 day
Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule) vs wos 3 sword shield deekay rolled a 1 for this fight - Quote :
shield found -1 no weapon -3 left 0 R: Nothing happend
Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC vs wos 4 deekay rolled a 4 for this fight - Quote :
BL10: Severely wounded - wos 4 unavailable during 10 days
Morg FC 1 sword + shield 4FC vs wos 5 shield sword deekay rolled a 4 for this fight - Quote :
shield found -1 left 3 Bl5: Serious wound - wos 5 out for 5 days
peasant 1 vs wos 6 sword deekay rolled a 1 for this fight - Quote :
no weapon -3 left 0 R: Nothing happend
peasant 2 vs wos 7 staff shield deekay rolled a 3 for this fight - Quote :
shield found -1 no weapon -3 left 0 R: Nothing happend
peasant 3 vs wos 8 deekay rolled a 4 for this fight - Quote :
no weapon -3 left 1 Bl0: A scratch - available the next day, wos 8 remains in the army
peasant 4 vs wos 9 sword deekay rolled a 3 for this fight - Quote :
no weapon -3 left 0 R: Nothing happend
Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC vs wos 10 sword deekay rolled a 1 for this fight - Quote :
Bl0: A scratch - available the next day, wos 10 remains in the army
Anonymoose FC 5 vs wos 1 sword deekay rolled a 3 for this fight - Quote :
no weapon -3 left 0 R: Nothing happend
Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule) vs wos 2 shield deekay rolled a 1 for this fight - Quote :
shield found -1 left 0 R: Nothing happend
Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC vs wos 3 sword shield deekay rolled a 3 for this fight - Quote :
shield found -1 left 2 Bl1: Non-Serious wound - wos 3 out for 1 day
Morg FC 1 sword + shield 4FC vs wos 4 deekay rolled a 3 for this fight - Quote :
Bl5: Serious wound - wos 4 out for 5 days
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 4:45 am | |
| now for the attackers Wos 1 +Sword vs Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC deekay rolled a 4 for this fight - Quote :
shield found -1 left 3 Bl5: Serious wound - Nickc97 out for 5 days
wos 2 shield vs Anonymoose FC 5 deekay rolled a 5 for this fight - Quote :
no weapon -3 left 2 Bl1: Non-Serious wound - Anonymoose out for 1 day
wos 3 shield sword vs Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule) deekay rolled a 3 for this fight - Quote :
Bl5: Serious wound - Jeroen234 out for 5 days
wos 4 vs Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC deekay rolled a 4 for this fight - Quote :
no weapon -3 shield found -1 left 0 R: Nothing happend
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anonymoose
Posts : 83 Join date : 2009-09-06
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 10:26 am | |
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Joris06
Posts : 12 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 12:16 pm | |
| i know i was missing something never could figure out how they got on the number of soldiers that where fighting now i know so FC is only been used at the start to see who has the uper hand but the weapens are used at the start for extra Fc and later to raise the amound of damige done or lower it with a shield | |
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The_Red_Chef Admin
Posts : 281 Join date : 2009-09-05
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:21 pm | |
| Moved this to the general forum. Great work on the guide! | |
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:32 pm | |
| well i was not yet done with it
but i gues it will do | |
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The_Red_Chef Admin
Posts : 281 Join date : 2009-09-05
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:34 pm | |
| Feel free to keep working on it. | |
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Debie2008
Posts : 12 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 1:43 pm | |
| tell me if i get this right lets use the same people and cards again and also the same wos again only this time is it a ig army outside the townwalls that is under wos attack
stafford 1st defense army Nickc97 FC 1 sword + shield 4FC Anonymoose FC 5 Jeroen234 FC 3 (default rule) Deekay FC 2 (default rule) sword + shield 5FC Morg FC 1 sword + shield 4FC Crowd of Peasant Levies 4 x 1fc
the total FC of stafford 1st defense army is 4Fc+5FC+3FC+5FC+4FC +4x1FC=25FC they are in outside town defening it so they get a 50% bonus making it 37FC or 38FC
the WoS army is 35 FC
so thats 35:38 so thats in the table 1:1 ? with the one as dice that Jeroen trowed will that give D20 so the army outside stafford gets 9 +20% is 10,8 rounded up 11 blows the wos get 20% of that number is 2,16 rounded up 3 blows
is this correct ?
how about when 1 army is traveling and has let say me on there hit list and im also traveling in a group
one going from stafford to birmingham and one going from birmingham to stafford how is it then been done ? | |
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:01 pm | |
| you have that correct
about your group put on your best dress im turning you into a Lady so that you can lead a group give me it here with people cards sword shields staff etc and i show you what will happen if you travel and you meet a traveling army with you on there hitlist
as a Lady you can have 8 people in a group that is including you | |
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Debie2008
Posts : 12 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:08 pm | |
| okey
armed retenue of Debie2008 Debie2008 default rule 2fc sword shield Anonymoose FC 5 sword shield patrol Major with 6x sword and shield
how is that ? | |
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Jeroen234
Posts : 47 Join date : 2009-09-18
| Subject: Re: crash course on army war fare Sat Sep 19, 2009 2:16 pm | |
| armed retenue of Debie2008 Debie2008 default rule 2fc sword shield 5FC Anonymoose FC 5 sword shield 8 FC patrol Major with 6x sword and shield 6x 3fc +6x3fc from sword = 36fc
total fc of armed retenue of Debie2008 = 49 FC total fc of WoS army = 35FC
there are no bonusen for defending since both are traveling
your on the hitlist of the ig army so you are defender and the army attacker 35:49
this is 2:3 again i think
lets trow now a 6 then we get ech50% Echx% (« Exchange x% »): The weaker army inflicts on the other a number of blows equal to x% of its total number soldiers. At the same time, the other army inflicts exactly the same number of blows.
WoS are the weakst even when having 2 more people then you 50% of 10 wos is 5 people
so your group and the wos army will both give 5 blows | |
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